Coldplay vs Satriani? Crimea vs...?

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Satriani was totally ripped off. I think this happens a lot more often than we think, but there is no excuse for it.

I'm still not convinced Coldplay ripped off anyone.

Honestly, "Viva La Vida" just sounds like dance music to me. I honestly can't picture any of those dudes owning any Satriani records (I know maybe three people who listen to Joe Satriani, and they're all technical guitar nuts; there's nothing there for the rest of us), but I could picture them listening to a lot of electronica. And to me, the vocal melody in that song just sounds like a pretty basic "club" sorta thing. The sort of thing that would be pretty easy for a songwriter to stumble onto.
you are right Satriani is a very technical guitar player and very unique. So if it wasn't ripped off, then someone else who created that just so happened to be as technical and produce the same exactt thing. That just seems highly unlikely to me,
Christopher, that Crimea track is clearly ripping off Coldplay haha. Just kidding.

As for Satriani - hey I own his Surfing with the Alien original CD, but I doubt Coldplay or anyone of their posse knew this guy/listen to his music, so I think it's all a coincidental. I mean, I'm surprise it doesn't happen more often with the similar chords.

Remember that Avril Lavigne saga? She settled out of court and paid the Rubinoos for having two lines sounding too similar (!! far out)

It's not the exact same thing, though. Both the parts in question are based around a pretty basic 4-chord progression. All really simple major and minor chords for the most part (although I think Satriani's throws a suspension in there somewhere, too) with a rhythm and tempo that probably any decent rhythm player would probably go to by default given those chords (incidentally, this rhythm and tempo makes it sound like dance music when used in a certain way, and I'm about to get to that). The Coldplay song uses a slightly different progression. The first chord of it is actually a substitution for the first chord in the progression in the Satriani song. It's a different but similar chord. But the bottom line is, it's not the same chord and to me is evidence that any similarity probably wasn't intentional. The melody in question is really not something that requires the technicality of Joe Satriani's playing to write, especially since Coldplay used it as a vocal melody rather than a guitar melody. The style of the vocal melody is incredibly common in dance music.

On top of that, the melody is actually different, too. They start in the same place, but they don't end anywhere close to each other.

It seems pretty unlikely that Coldplay would intentionally base a song off a couple non-repeated bars of a relatively obscure Joe Satriani song, honestly. Chris Martin has openly admitted taking influence from electronic music. If that song came from anywhere, there's no way that anywhere was Joe Satriani.
Yeah. Find me one guitarist who uses exclusively chord progressions no one else has!

I want to meet that guy and steal his stuff! Hah!
Ughhh very technical answer:-). But it was worth to read. BTW, "Viva la vida" is one of the songs of the year. Amazing Brian Eno production, great song etc etc etc
I'm not much of a Coldplay fan, but it is damn catchy.
Something that came to my attention quite recently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z08W9O60g44

After 3:10.

Sound familiar?

So now it's Satch vs. 1970's Cat Stevens.
great spot, soup! baby boom answer coming soon, you all sucked at it, specially you vu, call yourself a britpop fan? hah. ;o)

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